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but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter. and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember, it's only 2%. all those americans, too, get a tax cut on the
but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter....
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the president, house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house. new signs of give on both sides but can either side go far enough without losing their core of supporters? >>> welcome back "raw politics" now. 22 worried days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. or maybe 21 worrying days and one panicking night. there are signs even three weeks out that neither side really wants to push it to the very end. president obama today speaking at a truck engine plant in michigan said he's willing to give a little but he's not willing to compromise when it comes to higher taxes on the wealthiest americans. notice, though, he did not say he was married to a specific rate, such as all the way back to the clinton-era levels. as for house speaker boehner who he met with yesterday at the white house, he said the gop offer remains the same, no rate hikes. however, there were more signs over the weekend that republican unity may be cracking a little bit with a number of lawmakers who want to take the tax issue off the table asap. >> there is a growing group of
the president, house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house. new signs of give on both sides but can either side go far enough without losing their core of supporters? >>> welcome back "raw politics" now. 22 worried days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. or maybe 21 worrying days and one panicking night. there are signs even three weeks out that neither side really wants to push it to the very end. president obama today speaking at a truck engine plant in...
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so van, apart from my bad grammar, how close do you think president obama and speaker boehner are to a deal? and from your perspective, is a bad deal better than no deal? >> well, no. i think a bad deal is a bad deal and we shouldn't accept it. republicans have the problem that all of the polls show the vast majority of the american people -- people who have done well in america should do well by america and start paying america back. this tax break, even george bush didn't want it to be permanent. somehow, republicans have gotten hung up on this one thing, turning tax policy in to theology. they can't let it go. it has united the democratic party against them, and now most of the american people are on the other side of the debate. we can't talk about spending until we get out of the corner. >> ari, how much of the republican opposition is based on principle, to the raising of taxes on the wealthiest is based on principle and how much is based on a fear that they may face a primary challenge from more conservatives in their party or tea party candidates? >> i think it's impossible t
so van, apart from my bad grammar, how close do you think president obama and speaker boehner are to a deal? and from your perspective, is a bad deal better than no deal? >> well, no. i think a bad deal is a bad deal and we shouldn't accept it. republicans have the problem that all of the polls show the vast majority of the american people -- people who have done well in america should do well by america and start paying america back. this tax break, even george bush didn't want it to be...
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john boehner has said we are putting the $800 billion on the table but we are going to aim it at the rich. yesterday the president offered the outlines of a deal that might work with the republicans. and that is raise the rates now and engage in the conversations next year on tax deductions and loop holes. and that is called base broadening. and that has been attached to lowering the rates. so what the president is saying, there is a way that we could raise the rates, we could lower them back down again next year. do you think they are over playing their hand here? i think that there are people around the president who are more interested or have a strong interest in using this as a way to humiliate republicans and pushing them to the brink. we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. there is a danger in second term of excessive pride. let's see this play out more. i believe they have enough to go into privategotiationnegotiatio. he is the leader of the people. they need to get off of that and sit down and get something worked out. i guess they feel they were burned before and they
john boehner has said we are putting the $800 billion on the table but we are going to aim it at the rich. yesterday the president offered the outlines of a deal that might work with the republicans. and that is raise the rates now and engage in the conversations next year on tax deductions and loop holes. and that is called base broadening. and that has been attached to lowering the rates. so what the president is saying, there is a way that we could raise the rates, we could lower them back...